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Posted on 03. May 2018 16:26
All, Iím planning to have a league meeting this coming Monday evening 7th May 7.30 in Cawburn.

Aim is to catch any outstanding league fees from teams so that i can finalise balance sheet so that we can get AGM and prizegiving arranged.

Discuss ways to invite more teams to our league next season.

AOB

Thanks
Stephen


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Posted on 09. May 2018 19:57
Unfortunately very few people turned up at the league meeting on Monday after all team captains advising me that they were coming.

Those that turned up were

Rex for CAWBURN DE
John P from CAWBURN JP
Steve for Ewington.

No shows for

Malcy CAWBURN MC
Brian Commercial
Mike Parry Lamp

Unfortunately with such a poor end of season turn out of team reps there is still good bit of league fees outstanding.

As such I am unable to finalise the league funds to then progress to prizegiving etc. In addition the summer league could not be discussed at this meeting.

Each year a good number of our players ask why the prizegiving takes so long to take place, well this is a clear example of why..

I put a good bit of my personal and family time into preparing for these league meetings etc but with such a high level of apathy and lack of interest across the teams I feel this is now a big waste of my time and effort.

Iím still over £2200 out of pocket between both the Livi A and B teams for the supers over the past 18 months so becoming a huge joke now.

Stephen.


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Edited by mystick on 09. May 2018 19:58
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Posted on 10. May 2018 14:17
You should put up who owes what for the supers Stevie you shouldn't be a couple of grand out of pocket for that.

Only your kids are allowed to leave you a couple of grand down.
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Posted on 10. May 2018 15:51


Iím still over £2200 out of pocket between both the Livi A and B teams for the supers over the past 18 months so becoming a huge joke now.

Stephen.


I am absolutely astonished by this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

No way should you be paying out of your own pocket to start with
never mind not being repaid

this must be paid now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted on 10. May 2018 16:22
Thankless task Stevie hope you can recoup your cash & quick.


Yours In Sport

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Posted on 10. May 2018 16:29
mystick wrote:
Unfortunately very few people turned up at the league meeting on Monday after all team captains advising me that they were coming.

Those that turned up were

Rex for CAWBURN DE
John P from CAWBURN JP
Steve for Ewington.

No shows for

Malcy CAWBURN MC
Brian Commercial
Mike Parry Lamp

Unfortunately with such a poor end of season turn out of team reps there is still good bit of league fees outstanding.

As such I am unable to finalise the league funds to then progress to prizegiving etc. In addition the summer league could not be discussed at this meeting.

Each year a good number of our players ask why the prizegiving takes so long to take place, well this is a clear example of why..

I put a good bit of my personal and family time into preparing for these league meetings etc but with such a high level of apathy and lack of interest across the teams I feel this is now a big waste of my time and effort.

Iím still over £2200 out of pocket between both the Livi A and B teams for the supers over the past 18 months so becoming a huge joke now.

Stephen.
Stevie where does the £2200 owed come from as the fees etc only amount to £420? plus the league had £700 left over from last year?


Yours In Sport

Jeff.
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Posted on 10. May 2018 16:34
Steve, my apologies for not making the meeting on Monday, when you initially phoned me i did not realise it was the May bank holiday and i was fully booked.
The money for the super's for the A team is in the safe and you can pop in anytime and get it, the £21 league fees are behind the bar again anytime you are passing bud.

Once again my apologies for Monday.

Malky.


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Posted on 10. May 2018 18:14
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Stevie where does the £2200 owed come from as the fees etc only amount to £420? plus the league had £700 left over from last year?


Hi Jeff

Our league has carried over approx £600 following the yearly prizegiving at the start on the new season.

With respect to the Suoer 15s, the SPA look for all team entries paid up front around October time. If we require to enter 2 teams this costs about £850 per team so about £1700 needs paid at this time. We do not have this money in our league account in October.

As Treasurer it appears to have fallen to me to ďjust pay itĒ Team captains want to enter a team but with no thought about where the money comes from. If we donít pay in October the Livi league would have no teams entered.

As such it has fallen to me to pay for for our entries from my own money in good faith that this money is repaid once the respective captains collect in the money during the weekend of the event.

This appeared to work fine for a few years however last season has resulted in the failure of the Livi B team to return either of the Super 11s 2017 or Super 15s 2017 money. This totals around the £1480 mark.

Livi A have still to return the 11s 2018 money (£612) but Malcy has this to pass on.

Livi B players Alan Kerr and G Chambers failed to pay their 11s money at the event so another £110 down from them.

My biggest concern is that the Livi B team captain has failed to return £1480 with the 11s outstanding for over a year now.

I have made numerous attempts to recover the outstanding money by providing my bank details but not a penny has been repaid to date. I can only interpret this as the person involved has no real intention to repay this money. Worst of all the team players have handed their money to the captain nvolved for attending the events so the money was collected but not returned.

As a result of this experience I will not be paying for league entries again for obvious reasons, so future captains will need to arrange a new method of paying their entry fees in future.

I believe Whitburn collect the money from their players in advance of the team entry date so that they have the money up front.

Stephen


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Edited by mystick on 11. May 2018 16:56
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Posted on 11. May 2018 14:49
No intention to pay. Money will be in your account nxt week it won't be full amount cause not paying for people who haven't paid which I have been trying to get back
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Posted on 11. May 2018 15:26
Itís terrible that you have had to do this Stevie.but it doesnít help anyone when we leave picking our supers teams till the last minute,picking the teams early makes it a lot easier for people trying to sort time off work etc,also then if you are selected you can arrange to collect the cash from each person picked,no pay no play..c.mon letís get this sorted


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Posted on 11. May 2018 16:54
Brian Guest wrote:
No intention to pay. Money will be in your account nxt week it won't be full amount cause not paying for people who haven't paid which I have been trying to get back


Thanks Brian, itís not for you to pay for non payers. Everyone who goes to the event knows what it costs to attend. However you need to let the committee know who hasnít paid you over the 2 events so that this can be recorded.
These players canít be asked back again. Everyone has to pay their way and if they donít then they must know that someone is out of pocket by their selfish behaviour.

Allan makes a valuable point that we need to pick our teams early and collect in the money in advance of the SPA deadline, this will address a few of our issues regards picking our A and B teams in good time and reduce the needs for captains chasing people up for money.

Thanks
Regards

Stephen


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Posted on 14. May 2018 16:59
As a B team member who has paid the dues why don't you list those who have still to pay on the Web site then the money can be collected from the individual's and not the team captains and in future as Alan say the teams are picked in advance and money paid upfront


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Posted on 18. May 2018 13:42
Outstanding Monies update.

Alan Kerr £55 Paid - Thanks Alan

Brian Guest £1250 Paid to date - Thanks Brian


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Stephen


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